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I finished checking out, keeping an eye on the door, and wondering what was taking him so long. Then I took my cart and waited outside the door. I almost burst in but decided to ask a nice-looking man who was passing by to check instead. Of course allowances and exceptions should be made for kids with disabilities, but those kids are the exception, and not the rule. At one uni I went to, there was a little boy who was disabled and walked with a walker, and he took swimming lessons at the same time as his sister, so mom, brother, and sister would use the female locker room together before and after swimming.

This was fine, and it also would have been fine if the little boy had been physically able-bodied, but developmentally delayed. If that is the situation, best to go into the handicapped toilet stall if there is no family changing room. So, changing a too-young or disabled boy in a bathroom stall would have just resulted in people getting annoyed with you for tying up the bathroom stall. I did that, and must admit it was one of the more disconcerting moments in a long line of unusual situations one comes into when raising a gender non-conforming kid.

I have always read the news stories to my now 10 yr. The parks we go to are full of different equipment for differently-sized and differently-abled kids. Besides, if they do everything as tots, what will there be to look forward to when they get older? Or because one of my kids is lazy. A further reason is that I think kids ought to be spending time with peers if possible at the playground, and that happens less if they are off with their parents climbing on the equipmet meant for older kids.

My kids have managed to get into situations that were hard to get out of. That said, I must admit that I helped my kids learn to ride their training-wheel-free bikes.

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I helped them learn to read and so on. Those were some things I wanted them to learn before they were likely to figure them out without intervention. Craig - It does happen. But these are rare occurrences. Millions of people use public restrooms every day without being molested or murdered.

It has also lead the push for family restrooms - a good thing being proposed for a bad reason. But I still feel that it is completely inappropriate for a mother to physical attend her 9 year old or 8 or 7 or 6 or 5 son in the restroom.

He has to find that embarrassing and emasculating. And we do usually see this discussion in terms of mothers and sons. I must be the worlds worst dad. Max D. It seems more like a decision that the playground is your time off than a decision with any real rational basis - particularly if you are helping them on some equipment and with developing other skills. I do take issue at this need to find a bunch of lofty goals in something that is really a choice to be uninvolved because you just want to be uninvolved at the playground.

And it also makes some find issue with people who choose to do things other ways. Afterall, you have built up all these lofty goals so surely anyone who is doing what you are not is not meeting those needs of their children. If you want to do it, do it. And back off people who do it differently. Ultimately, your children will still achieve whatever they were meant to achieve in life either way.

Emily - Except that is not always a fitting rule.

My child was ready for the equipment long before she could reach it. She can do all monkey bars hand-over-hand if given a boost to them though. I took issue with people indicating that it was wrong to do and that you are harming your children in some way by doing it.

They may have a very good reason for not wanting their child there. I used to get extremely annoyed when people would put my child on the swings. She was obsessed with them and would swing all day.

If she was not in the swings, it was because she had already swung, done her countdown to swing departure, begged and pleaded for more time and been told no more swinging for the day. Donna: no need to bash me. I prefer not except in an emergencybecause I myself do not want her helped on the monkey bars period. I do not care what you do with your own kids at the playground. Idly being pushed in a swing which I also will not do or lifted up to pretend to climb the bars is not as beneficial for my kids as having to do things for themselves.

And this is a perfectly acceptable thought-process to me. Despite agreeing to put her on the monkey bars a time or two or pushing her on the swing for a few minutes neither needed anymoreshe was expected to play on her own.

I take her to the playground to play with other kids, get some physical exercise and to get some peace, quiet and time to myself while she does it.

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No grandiose notions of building her physical and mental health. No not putting her on equipment because I want her to learn independence. It is nothing more than pure self-preservation on my part.

And that was my only point. I think the ability to say that is very much being lost in this country. I said the same thing in the thread about leaving kids in the car. I stopped using the YMCA near my school, when one of my male students walked into the ladies locker room. At the time I was teaching 5th grade and he had been retained in 1st so he was The YMCA buy my house enforces the no kids over 6 in opposite locker room.

There are family change rooms for those people who need help and the person accompanying them is the opposite sex.

I see more adults with disabilities using them than people with kids. He goes into the mens to use the bathroom during the visit. But there are no detailed rules on what makes the best free-range or other parent! I know we will disagree on a number of topics, but just the fact that we are here commenting already shows that we are thinking about the best way to raise our kids and not just letting the media or pseudo experts tell us what kind of parents we should be.

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I do think that there are probably men out there who could take advantage of little boys in a public restroom, but more than likely, something like that would take a little more time than it takes to run in, pee, wash hands, and run out. That is something they need to be aware of in this sex-crazed world. They have to learn how to do it sometime. My 7-year-old who has had one filling is super vigilant now about brushing because the experience of a filling was so traumatic for him.

Consequences to actions can sometimes be the best teachers. Until recently I have been wondering at what age I should start sending my kids into the bathroom themselves in public places. Then, last week, my daughter told me quite firmly at a local restaurant that she was going by herself than you very much and could I please leave her alone.

I doubt she washed her hands as well as I would have liked, but she was thrilled with her independence. I expect my son will likewise let me know when he is ready. Of course, for the sake of other visitors, I will have to make sure he has learned to focus and not point his penis in every conceivable direction while his mind wanders!!!

As for the tooth brushing, I have a friend whose son still needs assistance with some personal hygiene issues at age 9. But, when they go camping and use public facilities, she lets it go for a day or two just to avoid embarrassing him in public. Donna, you said my reasoning was irrational and I was making it up to cover for being uninvolved. If my life were different, they might have lots of other opportunities to run and climb, or I might have the whole day to spend with them, but this is our life.

A single, working mom has to make the most of every minute with her kids. On top of that, most of the time our weather is not conducive to playing on the park equipment. And both tend toward being wusses, thanks to the way they are coddled by most adults. There were a couple of times he got negative comments over this practice. The community pool is a whole different issue as they have a rule in place where no child under 9 can be unaccompanied in the locker rooms.

We did try it once with my now 13 year old daughter taking her she was 12 at the time and were promptly given a warning for not properly supervising her with an adult. I relieve at various stations throughout two states, so I travel alot. In the past two months I have put 20,kms on my personal car sort of lots of travel. There is one public bathroom on a major highway I would not let my ten year old brother happily by himself.

Not sure why, something just gives me the heebie-jeebies about those restrooms - I dont even use them although the places truckies breakfast is delicious! Now, at ten I reckon he could hold it in for another 40kms until the next possible stop.

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But if he couldnt? I dont know. So, I guess there are circumstances I wouldnt feel comfortable letting a child, even a not so small one, go by themselves. Hell, I felt uncomfortable when my ex would use them! We had some great experiences on the farm, my teenage brother and I, unsupervised.

I think he was more steady than I was. We had some fruit trees and a lot of lucern, a lot of hay.

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We grew some corn; we grew a little wheat. We had a number of things on that farm. We were doing the best we could, but we were not the best farmers. We were surrounded by other farms, and those farms were being farmed by people who knew what they were doing. One day one of the neighbors came to my father. He was a farmer, and he had a whole list of the things that my brother and I were doing wrong. I think I could have added more things to that list than he had. In looking back I was grateful for the fact that indeed my father decided that he was going to raise boys and now cows, and he did.

I did think it was an odd dialect for these parts. Shera-Nine seems like a rather high cutoff for being allowed in the locker room unsupervised, barring a child with a physical or developmental disability, or a proven behaviour problem. Emily: putting on the suit before going to the rec center would work for many of us, but coming home wet would not. Where I live, it gets way too cold to go outside in a wet swimsuit most of the year.

In our rec center, kids over age 3 are not allowed in the opposite gender locker room. Some people actually change their kids in the hallway, despite signs forbidding it. However, it seems to me that a 4yo boy ought to be able to take off his trunks and put on his pants without help. He can emerge from the room for help once his privates are properly covered.

But if you are talking about summer only, then yes, that sounds like a solution. The suits would dry along the way. If your son comes through with you, I feel I must cover up as much as possible.

What a lot of this boils down to is, as is so often said on this blog, parents getting a better grip on reality and trusting that their kid can navigate the world of public bathrooms. I agree with you, Emily. I would be really bummed if she were kept out of the [indoor] pool over something arbitrary like that. Of course, the safety issue is pertinent too. It works both ways, just because the majority of posters on here are women does not mean that girls are above this type of behavior.

Also, I think men are automatically less likely to try this because urinals are not private. OK, maybe not therapy, but. That being said, we have to place some trust in our kids to handle situations, even awkward ones, on their own. Keep in mind that most readers of this blog are moms. I raised a girl and was once a girl! Gender differences die hard maybe never? I have to wonder, if things are this restrictive now, what will it be like in ten or twenty years?

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I think this is because of a the general view of men as potential pervs and women as safe b the urinals and c the view of mom as mom. Only the most extreme helicopter parent truly believes that men are hiding in the ladies room unknown to anyone and waiting for a lone little girl. And since all child molesters are male yeah rightladies rooms are safe in their lack of males. Many people believe that male perverts are prevalent so the chances of a boy running into one at the urinal are high.

Mom is mom. She supervises baths, takes care of medical needs and checks boo boos. There is less social sigma attached to mom seeing her son naked than dad seeing his daughter naked. I wonder if this will change as more and more men become primary care givers. In fact, very few are. And we seem to go down this path every time playground equipment comes up. It is not even a FRK issue. In fact, the fact that you are letting your kids near monkey bars at all pretty much moves you out of helicopter range.

OMGosh, joining this discussion late, but had to pop in my two cents wort. My littley, 9 at the time but on the small side, got stuck in the cubicle of the toilets at Monte Cassino - she could latch the door to close it, but realised too late that the latch, on a very solid door with no room at the bottom to crawl out beneath, was too high up for her to then unlatch.

We, her very sociable parents, were miles away talking to others on the bus tour, and it took us about 15 minutes to realise the kid was missing! They had a wonderful time kicking the door down, NYPD police style! Oh, and Donna, looks like you are posting here too. Hope you really enjoy your time here in July, and make sure you get north of Auckland a bit at last, Auckland being just another big blob of a place, very spread out, and I know you have lots of big cities in the States.

That said it is a fairly cosmopolitan place, so you might find it interesting anyway, and most of the people are friendly! They would wander around during the times the girls were getting ready for evening service, or after the shower times, and basically. Several of the girls said this made them feel very uncomfortable. I know little kids like to look under stalls, changing rooms, etc.

Dawn Rachele, I think it really depends on the kid but 12 is probably more than enough to be independent to clean his or her teeth. April 16, Hi kyhbaiabhs Readers!

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Here are two recent comments, prompted by the Anderson Cooper post below this one. Which bathroom encounter makes YOU feel queasy? Dear Free-Range Kids; On a long drive, we stopped for gas and for my 8-year-old son to use the restroom.

I was wandering a bit in the mini-mart, but a man figured out I was his mom and let me know he was stuck. Just as I was opening the door a bit to ask my son what he needed, he walked out - a second man had helped him get out of the stall. Just another story demonstrating that most people are actually helpful and nice, not menacing. I was brushing my teeth in the bath house when in walked a mom with her son. I looked over to see a boy who was at least 8 years old.

It got worse. It was all I could do to keep my own mouth shut. Free-Range Kids Town Thriving! Guest Post: Mean Moms Rule!

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